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Here's round two...
She loves my writing - but then she comes into my room and says I shouldn't use words like "cock" and "spunk" - that it belittles the eroticism of the scenes.
Sighhhh....
Then she said that I go into too much detail about body positioning...sigh.
I tried to tell her that her thought on the use of the word "cock" were her own opinion - that it's a personal reaction and a generational thing too. She equates the word with being vulgar and a slap in the face to men and the readers - like it's the male version of "cunt." See - offensive....
I told her that that's not how all others see it. That since I'm writing about sex between two gay men - the use of cock is appropriate. That it is meant to be erotic - hot - etc. Naughty in a good way.
I asked well, come on - it's hard enough to write sex between two men and get all the "his" "he", etc - straight - meaning who's doing what to whom. Now try adding in telling whose penis is whose.... It's a mind field. How many times can you reference it with cock, dick, hardon, sex, etc... And not be a broken record?
Course then she told me dick and hardon aren't good either.
Awwwww....
As for the details I go into... Damn it - I'm trying to do that. It's to help with the visuals. I want the reader to experience it with them.
Ok - so I told her we just disagree. But she needs to view it from how I intended it, not necessarily how she personally reacts. Does that make any sense?
She's reading the second chapter to "Not Letting Go" btw - the opening bathtub scene between Stuart/Vince.
So - she loves my writing and the story - thinks it holds value - but that one thing seems to have caught her focus...sigh.
It has me thinking.... What are your own opinions about the sex scenes we read in slash? Are they realistically done? Do you think gay men see them as realistic? Have you ever asked? lol....
I just... I don't know. I'm glad we're having discussions about this. I'm glad she likes the writing. But these convo's are also frustrating....
xof
She loves my writing - but then she comes into my room and says I shouldn't use words like "cock" and "spunk" - that it belittles the eroticism of the scenes.
Sighhhh....
Then she said that I go into too much detail about body positioning...sigh.
I tried to tell her that her thought on the use of the word "cock" were her own opinion - that it's a personal reaction and a generational thing too. She equates the word with being vulgar and a slap in the face to men and the readers - like it's the male version of "cunt." See - offensive....
I told her that that's not how all others see it. That since I'm writing about sex between two gay men - the use of cock is appropriate. That it is meant to be erotic - hot - etc. Naughty in a good way.
I asked well, come on - it's hard enough to write sex between two men and get all the "his" "he", etc - straight - meaning who's doing what to whom. Now try adding in telling whose penis is whose.... It's a mind field. How many times can you reference it with cock, dick, hardon, sex, etc... And not be a broken record?
Course then she told me dick and hardon aren't good either.
Awwwww....
As for the details I go into... Damn it - I'm trying to do that. It's to help with the visuals. I want the reader to experience it with them.
Ok - so I told her we just disagree. But she needs to view it from how I intended it, not necessarily how she personally reacts. Does that make any sense?
She's reading the second chapter to "Not Letting Go" btw - the opening bathtub scene between Stuart/Vince.
So - she loves my writing and the story - thinks it holds value - but that one thing seems to have caught her focus...sigh.
It has me thinking.... What are your own opinions about the sex scenes we read in slash? Are they realistically done? Do you think gay men see them as realistic? Have you ever asked? lol....
I just... I don't know. I'm glad we're having discussions about this. I'm glad she likes the writing. But these convo's are also frustrating....
xof
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I think we might be coming from a different definition of slash here. To me (and to much, if not most, of fandom), slash is male/male only. There is never male/female involved - male/female is never slash, regardless of whether it is a canon pairing or not. And female/female is femslash.
To me, it's simply a way of describing what you'll see inside. "This fic contains two men having sex, thus it is slash." "This fic contains a man and a woman having sex, thus it is het." "This fic contains two woman having sex, thus it is femslash."
I think we just have a problem of word defintion here.